I Have Come to Believe

Cumulative watch time of all 4 videos is under 50 minutes.

The amazing love of God!
Who will you catch the Spirit from? Christ or another?
Is the trinity really a Seventh-day Adventist doctrine?
How important is it that SDAs understand this?

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth” (Gen 1:1). “It is he…that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in… Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things… the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator…” (Isa 40:22, 26, 28). “I [Jehovah] have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass” (Isa 48:3). “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life…” (Jn 1:1-4). “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself” (Jn 5:26). “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life…that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us” (1Jn 1:1-2). “…ye have known him that is from the beginning” (1Jn 2:13).

“The LORD possessed [begat] me [His Son] in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up [poured out] from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth [born]; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth [born]… When he [Jehovah] prepared the heavens, I was thereThen was I by him, as one brought up…” (Prov 8:22-30). “Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning [the beginning of the day]…” (Hos 6:3). “…whose goings forth have been from of old [more specifically, the beginning], from everlasting” (Mic 5:2). “Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he [the Son of God]; I am the first, I also am the last. Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together… Draw near to me, hear this: from the beginning I have not spoken in secret, from the time it came to be I have been there. And now the Lord God has sent me and his Spirit”  (Isa 48:12-13, 16; KJV & RSV). “For I [the Son of God] have given unto them [the disciples] the words which thou [the Father] gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me” (Jn 17:8). 

Since time and space are not God, they are “invisible”, created things (Jn 1:3; Col 1:16; Rev 4:11). The dimensions of space and time are not the fundamental context of God and His Son. While we have every reason to believe that spacetime is the context of everything else God created, we see that its Creator must be the ultimate Context of these dimensions (Jn1:3; Col 1:16; Rev 4:11). The Bible says that there was a first moment of spacetime – “the beginning; from the time that it was” (Isa 48:16) – the first created thing. I say “the first” simply because time was not at all before that. The phrase “before that beginning” is a total contradiction of terms…meaningless.

In the absolute beginning, that very first moment of time, the Son of God literally came out, went forth, was poured out, was brought forth, was brought up, was begotten by God the Father, that is, from Everlasting, who is the “One God and Father of all, who is above all (including spacetime)” (Eph 4:6) as the Bible says. And in that very same moment, God began creating “all things”, even that first moment of spacetime, by His Son (Col 1:16). We wonder, How was this possible? While we cannot fully know, we can know the Son of God had just inherited “all things” from His Father (Heb 1:2)! He came out from God having within Himself “by inheritance” personal ownership of Life (Jn 5:26), His Father’s name (Ex 23:21; Heb 1:4), and even “all the fulness of the Godhead bodily” (Col 2:9). He came out an Equal to His Father, a Creator with His God (Jn 1:1-3; 5:18; Heb 1:9).

The Son of God called His Father “the only true God” (Jn 17:3). The Father called Jesus “God” (Heb 1:8). The Father is God both in nature (fully divine) and in person (being). In this sense, He alone is the “One God and Father of all, who is above all” (Eph 4:6). The Son of God is God in nature but not in person. The Son is an Individual distinct from the Father, and in this sense, He is not God. While He is equal to the Father in nature (fully “God”), He is and will always be “subject unto Him” (1 Cor 15:27-28) as a literal Son. Here is how we understand all this… Adam and Eve were together called “Adam” (Gen 5:2) – both were fully human. Only Adam was Adam in both nature (human) and person (being). Clearly, there is a sense in which it is not correct to say that Eve was Adam. Nevertheless Eve, who came out from Adam (Gen 2:21-23) and was subject to him (1Cor 11:3), was not inferior in nature to him. She was no less than Adam, no less than fully human. She was her husband’s equal (21MR 214.4). God created Adam and Eve “in his own image” (Gen 1:27). Therefore Adam, Eve and their marriage – “one flesh” (Gen 2:24) – are a representation of the Father, Son and their relationship – “one Spirit” (Eph 4:4).

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you” (Rom 8:9-11). This passage shows that “the Spirit” is both “the Spirit of God” and “the Spirit of Christ.” Its precise nature is mysterious (AA 52.1). But the Holy Spirit’s identity is not, as the above passage shows: He is Christ and He is God. Speculating about the nature of the Holy Spirit to the point where we come to believe that which is nowhere to be found stated in Scripture – that Its nature is that of an individual Being (of a Trinity) – is just the sort of thing we should never do.

The Lord [Christ] is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty” (2 Cor 3:17). “God is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth” (Jn 4:24). Both Christ and God are “holy” (Acts 4:30; Rev 15:3-4).  Both Christ and God are “one in [holy] spirit” (YI, December 16, 1897 par. 5). And the Spirit is not another divine Being. This we can see conclusively from Jesus’ words in Matthew 11:27 – “All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man [“not even one (man, woman, or thing), that is, none, nobody, nothing”; Strong’s, G3762] knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man [“some or any person or object”; Strong’s, G5100] the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him” – juxtaposed with 1 Corinthians 2:10-11 – “the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”

If the Spirit is an individual, coequal Member of a Trinity, then… Jesus plainly told us that the Spirit does not really know the Son (Mat 11:27) even though “the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God” (1 Cor 2:10). In other words, Jesus essentially told us the Spirit is “Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth [Christ]” (2 Tim 3:7), a contradiction of the Spirit’s supposed coequal omniscience, to say the least!

As my spirit is really me and not someone else acting on my behalf, so the divine Spirit is not someone other than God and Christ. “And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit” (1Co 15:45). Yes, the Son of God was made. But not merely a “living soul”-creation. He was made a holy, life-giving Spirit.

A brief slide-study: Identifying the Holy Spirit

A two-page quote comparison: Didn’t White mention a Third Person?!

Commonly asked questions: “Are you saying the Son of God was created?” “Are you now Arian?”

Answer: No, I am believing just what the Bible says – that God’s Son was begotten, was come out from God the Father. Christ, unlike any created being, possessed by inheritance all the fulness of the Godhead from the time He was begotten of the Everlasting in the absolute beginning!